In front of the Six Nations fighting for England at Twickenham, four men with a line in France – Raphael Ibanez, Philippe Saint-Andre, Thomas Castaignede and Rory Teague – tell Mick Cleary where they are a & # 39; think he's gone wrong for once an army.
Who is the crime?
There are a variety of reasons for releasing France, from the high level of backbacks in 1997-98, the last to achieve that work in the campus, to the low level where the team is just finished in the # 39; The top half of the record was in the last eight years and they lost 12 of the games that lost 15.
"We've been going to the big stadium for a long time," said Raphael Ibanez, who was the captain; before. "Although we spent too much time to cover wages and budgets and marketing, other countries were moving forward with rugby. Should we blame the players We make horrible mistakes, our coaches who explain why this happened, when it's important, our structure or the highest 14?
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"Unfortunately, it's a bit and it's getting it proud and angry, but not hopefully if we can focus on its & # 39; its own game and not everything around it. "
Are there too many foreign countries in the Top 14?
"What do you choose a person like? [South African-born] Does Paul Willemse lock when French men are just as good? "said Thomas Castaignede, formerly the first fifteenth of France.
"If Willemse was Jonah Lomu, maybe then. But it's not. There's been a lot of surprises in Top 14 sure. It's good to see that there is some change in that way, but it's late to do that. behind. "
Philippe Saint-Andre looks at that scene, which is seen on both sides of the case as a main coach at Toulon as well as the national team.
"This situation has been repaid for the period of 10 to 15 years. This is the negative division that does not adequately address the needs of the national team so much of the scene, but especially with the lack of focus on getting young players right. "
Where are the directors?
Sebastien Vahaamahina, Glas Clermont Auvergne, was raised when referee Wayne Barnes said that he was a French-appointed captain after his geographer, Guilhem Guirado, who replaced the week in went. No one had told him that he was above the mechanical device, reflecting on how scarce the directors were really as well as poor guidance outside of his / her; record.
"The second half faced Wales in recognition of the situation of rugby – without a doubt, out of control, not exactly what a plan was to play, without a person , take control, "said Ibanez.
Castaignede remembers different days. "So many people have been playing their game with a prostitute, who realized rugby and were not afraid to get involved, whether Emile Ntamack, Fabien Pelous, Rafa no Philippe and authoritative. Instead Sebastien is even aware that he was a captain. "
What are their identities?
France is similar to their own traditions, they are not heavy enough to get their arms like they did, so quickly when Saint-Andreis got one of the biggest armies they saw in Twickenham in 1991 when France gave an attack behind the line itself and the field was long enough, or enough enough to rely on their structures by going to & # 39; play patiently and correctly.
"The French way is more interesting, more likely, which is a strength at times, but at the end of weakness," said Rory Teague, trying to give more tightness and science over time at Bordeaux.
"They were not really ready for everyone at Bordeaux and I should be fairer than my approach. The situation of French players is behind the rest of the world, the home game is slower with more disasters, and they look pretty happy to be there in that comfort zone.
Some of the lowest initiatives that have come from the partnership, but more needs to be accessed from the bottom up. for the good of the international team. "
… and Twickenham, a day of rescue or sale?
France has not won the English counterpart at Twickenham since 2005 and the statues are not good after last weekend events.
"I'm scared for Sunday (Monday NZT) that it would make a big difference to France if it's not good enough," said Castaignede.
"There's no sympathy in England. If they can hit them, they are. They played a perfect match in Dublin, as a symphony orchestra, all on the same page. I can not say that I expect France to enjoy but I hope they will deliver more. "
Saint-Andre believes that France should break up. "We have nothing to lose and we should enjoy it Le Crunch, just go out and get involved, "he said." It has been a very sad sadness. New blood is needed and new ideas.
"That's for another day. This generation needs to be a look at Twickenham that is crucial to filling in that French charter with pride. One is sure – we're the subtitles! "
Witnesses about the decline
Raphael Ibanez, 45, a captain of France 98 and won a grand slams captain in 1997-98 and the World Cup run in 1999.
Philippe Saint-Andre, The 51, who was a major coach between 2012-15 and Gloucester, Sale and Toulon had a spell. He was a previous captain, he won 69 international captains.
Thomas Castaignede, 44, 54 captains for his country as the first eighteenth, and spent seven years at Saracens (2000-2007).
B & B Rory Teague, 33, attacking coach; in England under Eddie Jones and, recently, the main Bordeaux Begles Union coach.